founder and brilliant marketer Kevin Rogers
asked me to be on his stellar podcast:
"The Truth About Marketing." 
I wanted to create a conversation that was once in a lifetime.
Something people come back to for years.
Otherwise, what am I doing it for?

If you've ever had a conversation with me,
you know I can get amped.

That's what our conversation was like. Amped!
I gave it everything I have.
Once in a lifetime.

But sometimes lightning strikes twice -

So you'll see TWO interviews below.

You can hear them both in the players below.
I hope they become some of your favorite audios.
They are for me, but I'm biased! :

Interview #2 - The Truth About Giving Your Best 2017

Interview #1 - The Truth About Showing Up Ready To Rock